Tuesday, May 06, 2008

Fun Tales of Fascism (Sort Of)


So, apparently my Hannity-related ranting has not yet concluded. For the past few hours I've been posting the following completely true story on the Hannity forums, using one alternate IP and identity after another. I've found it fun but the mods are far too quick and merciless for it to have any staying power:

Four years ago, I was banned from this forum for questioning the ban of one of my close friends, who had in turn been banned for questioning another ban. I'm unclear as to how far back the chain unravelled.

In direct violation of this board's standards which allows "criticism without getting personal," I was banned. I created a new account, posting in the moderator forum to question the ban, in accordance with the site's regulations. This account was immediately banned as well without any explanation.

I left, disillusioned, and finally began posting again a few months ago. Yesterday, once again in clear violation of your forum's standards, I was banned for questioning the ban of another user, who had said something you didn't like, once again something completely allowable according to forum rules. An innocent question led to his ban, then mine.

The Discussion Rules for this forum explicitly prohibit this behavior, but the moderators did it anyway:


"You have been banned for the following reason: No reason was specified.
Date the ban will be lifted: Never."


This isn't a forum - a place to openly discuss ideas. This is fascist 1930s-40s Italy, where your friends and neighbors disappear and mentioning their disappearance is dangerous to your well-being. This is Nazi Germany, where mere mention of certain topics WILL lead to instabans, once again, I repeat, in full violation of this board's guidelines, which should serve as the Moderator's Bible.

Why did they ban me?

Because I said something that they didn't like, and because absolute, unchecked power corrupts. Because Lee Kington and his posse, always fans of secret midnight lynchings, ban all with whom they disagree, tainting WABC, Sean Hannity and the entire conservative movement by their behavior.

The message: Forget the forum rules. Forget free speech, and everything I purport to stand for, for I have become a tyrant, and I have executions to oversee.

Well, Lee, I'm going to play your game. I have followed the rules in the past, unlike you and your bloodthirsty band, but your disregard for the standards of this board have driven me to baser methods. From now until the time that complete board reform occurs (a substantial portion of which will be the removal of Lee Kington and all other abusive and unrepentant moderators from this board), I will propagate this message in the forums.

Twenty seconds from now, somebody will see this post. They'll flag it and your Gestapo will descend upon it like a chocolate-coated Jew, and this post will be removed and my IP banned. But SOMEBODY will read this post before Big Brother has it removed from history. SOMEBODY will find out what has been happening on these forums for far too many years.

I will rotate my IP address, repost this message and let the cycle continue. In an attempt to drive the symbolic imagery home, each time I will appear with the name of a Jew who was killed in a Nazi concentration camp, who disappeared from his/her home or community without a trace, even as you silence opposing voices daily with no means for appeal.

I hope to cause you some tiny portion of the discomfort and frustration that you have given me, and maybe make this tiny section of the web a better place. Now let's have some fun.

So - posting under various Semitic names got my righteous anger flowing, as well as the mods' blood pressure, who promptly banned me as "punk ignorant trash."

After a ten-page conversation wherein the inner circle of mods congratulated themselves on repeatedly blocking my account, the guy who Sean Hannity has chosen to represent him responded in typically-thoughtful fashion:



Seriously - this is a grown man?

I had thought that I was the only one to have problems with this particular mod, but apparently there's a petition online for the guy's removal as a mod, as well as numerous articles from a wide variety of sources criticizing him. I'm going to continue with my project just to tick the guy off, but fighting that sunburned AARP'er is probably a lost cause.

EDIT: I'm starting to enjoy this. His avatar makes it easy to imagine him at his computer, flailing his arms about frantically as steam pours from his ears, cartoon-style:



EDIT (JULY 22):

Another example saved for posterity, which you'll have to click on to enlarge since it's pretty illegible (thanks to Asgardshill for the heads up):


Here Lee pretty much admits that the rules don't apply to him or any other moderator, and that they can ban pretty much anybody they want for any half-cocked reason. (Actually, "admits" is a strong word since he doesn't think that he's doing anything wrong.)

119 comments:

  1. Anonymous6:07 PM

    I have to agree with you.

    Further i will say Sean Hannity is no friend to the military, he claims he's all for veterans, yet his message board regularly bans veterans and allows anti-military trolls as long as they kiss the moderator's asses.

    And yes, Hannity knows about it, callers to his show have told him for YEARS what goes on, but mr bigshot can't be bothered.

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  2. Anonymous7:04 PM

    You know what's funny, you think Freedom of Speech actually applies to a privately owned and funded website that bears the name of someone in the public eye. What is posted on that board is a reflection upon him. Like him or not, he has the right to control what happens on his message board.

    Your Freedom of Speech has not been denied. You're free to write whatever you like. Just not there under Sean Hannity's name. This blog is evidence of that very point.

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  3. anonymous #2:

    Uh. . . you'll notice that I was very careful not to reference Freedom of Speech, which applies only to the feds (and, by an amendment to the Constitution, to the states).

    I was merely requesting that the moderators themselves follow the site's rules. My "fascist Italy" / Germany comments were added merely for effect, though I believe they apply in principle.

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  4. Anonymous10:09 PM

    Um... You weren't that careful dipshit. And I quote...

    "The message: Forget the forum rules. Forget free speech, and everything I purport to stand for, for I have become a tyrant, and I have executions to oversee."

    Did you just forget your wrote that? Did you not look over your own post on your blog before you replied to me?

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  5. Hi, Lee.

    The "tyrant" statement WAS in regards to you. Though I removed the kid gloves and registered under multiple accounts, I felt that it was justified as all board rules of engagement had already been broken by YOU.

    "The message" was the message that YOU were sending, not my message to you. Sorry for the ambiguity.

    I'll ignore your profanity. You've been used to complete editorial control so long that I won't expect anything other than elementary school insults.

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  6. Anonymous3:36 AM

    Honestly, this isn't Lee. Just a concerned citizen that's been following your idiocy sense it started. I was one of the few that read your comments before they were deleted.

    And regardless of who you were trying to project, they were still your words.

    Seriously, get a life...

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  7. Don't cry anonymous. Just a concerned citizen, hahaha. What a joke. Who are you, Lee (Mr. wife stealer), Leigh (the boozer), Gdoane (I'm in my bunker), Rick aka Firecrotch, or the really, really big one, what's her name. The Hannity forums are a joke and full of race-baiting far right nutjobs. Makes Sean Hannity look like a racist homophobe.

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  8. Anonymous, sorry for the case of mistaken identity. Look, I fully understand that there are a large number of users who have managed to be active on the forums without attracting the ire of the mods (you don't reach 5 million posts if everybody's getting banned).

    Still, if you do anger the mods, you'll be banned regardless of whether you were following forum rules or not. I've seen posters asked why users were banned in the mod forums only to be told that it's none of their business.

    Sure, I was a little persistent than may have been expedient, but I don't take kindly to arbitrary and dishonest individuals. I won't color all of the mods by the terrible examples of a few.

    I don't know if I'd go as far as Lyla, though. There's a fair number of reasonable blokes on the forums. The actual bigots are few and far between.

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  9. Anonymous8:40 PM

    The problem is not a 'free speech' issue, the real problem is the Hannity mods are so swelled headed they think they are why people go there, and that the site is their plaything.

    The proof of this is the intensly childish 'talk to the moderator forum' which appears to be a giant ego stroke for some small minded people.

    The fact that Sean Hannity can't be arsed to see what a laughing stock of a forum he has is a supreme irony.

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  10. asgardshill10:23 AM

    Well, the Hannity boards are officially in free-fall meltdown mode. Pull up a Balans Chair and grab a cup of Bosco, kiddies, and hear the sad tale ...

    - Moderator Tislaw has gone to that Great Moderator Enclave In The Sky. Apparently she and new moderator Firewatch (formerly known as Reconrick) got into it over the Mormon church.

    http://forums.hannity.com/showpost.php?p=27822041&postcount=61

    It is my understanding that T is gone which leaves Firewatch the religion forum. Let us know now if this is what we can expect, because if so I will certainly be taking this to the Admin.

    - Moderator Firewatch (see above) got caught with his hand in the cookie jar, calling Mormons "mafia" and trying to post-edit (i.e. cover up) his thoughts in various threads.

    http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=668181

    (posted by Stormy) The original link he used was NOT the one OT posted. The link Firewatch originally banned is no longer in existence. He went back and changed it later on. Two posters quoted his original post with the original link he said was banned.

    Secondly, he has accused us of dogpiling, intimidating, etc and has specifically attacked and implicated me with his nasty abusive comments above:

    1. I hardly post there anymore and when I do I am on my best behavior and act in accordance to my promise to T.

    2. This took place on an LDS thread about an LDS topic in which the LDS post. Most LDS do not post on topics regarding other religions. We have been accused of "dogpiling" intimidating, etc - when the reality is that these posters go into an LDS thread, knowing it is "populated" by LDS and post. The LDS members on the board respond -each giving their different view points. This is his definintion of dogpiling, intimindation, etc.

    3. Are you now ruling that it is okay for us to refer to others as members of a "mafia" or any other criminal organization in the RF? Does this mean we can now refer to other religions as a cult? That is certainly the least offensive of the two.

    4. He fails to mention and acknowledge that he is part of the 1% problem to which he refers.

    5. Why does he not just rule that if others have a problem that they can not handle with a theology or practice of another religion then just stay away from it.

    What about the rule on the link to the geneological site? I would like you to look at it and tell us which rules it violates. We have used it for years - including T.

    It is my understanding that T is gone which leaves Firewatch the religion forum. Let us know now if this is what we can expect, because if so I will certainly be taking this to the Admin.

    He is out of control. He is abusive. He is retaliatory. He is a bully. He can dish it out but he can not take it. And you guys, for whatever reason, chose to give him control of those buttons.


    - Lee Kington melted down last week and flushed the entire Religion Forum down the memory hole. (Its been subsequently restored, probably by Mod1). Lee probably got his li'l feewings hurt and entered terminal snitdom because Ron Paul has the temerity to breathe the same oxygen he does.

    - PortLEIGH Goodlife - still desperately needs a coupon for half-off at the New Orleans Fat Farm. And you thought fat people were jolly.

    - Remus Lupin - the new board Staasi. Unceremoniously spanked off of at least three other chat boards with his tail twixt his legs for being a pathetic little snitch, Remus has found a comfort zone in TTTM.

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  11. asgardshill10:26 AM

    And the other shoe drops (re Hannity boards) ...

    http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=668181&page=8

    (Moderator portLEIGH Goodlife, referring to Stormy) I hope your little martyr role was worth it. YOU are way out of line and yes, you are banned.

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  12. Reading your links I have to say that I respect Iggy. He definitely reinforces the power structure of the forums by supporting bad decisions, but he's respectful about it.

    I love how they claim to have relaxed the rules to a PG-13 level of language, but they still banned a good handful of users for mild profanity. The "rule" is just an excuse for their honored guests to use profanity but such freedom is not allowed for others.

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  13. Anonymous11:12 AM

    The 'civility' rules are another of Goodlife's many ways of attempting to 'mommy' a political message board.

    Instead of letting people discuss politics it's become a kindergarten where you must watch what you say lest you be banned, unless you hang out in the Trivial pursuit section with Goodlife and Firewatch.

    If THAT is the case then you can virtually get away with anything. They let one woman (who has an avatar of herself and goodlife laughing) regularly break board rules, curse at members and make outragious racist comments which they quickly delete and this woman gets away with this all the time. Not a hint of 'moderation' there, but let a long time on topic poster make the slightest comment deemed 'uncivil' and their pet snitch squad lead by Remus Lupin will have them banned faster then you can 'hypocrisy.'

    You will also notice that they place a premium on 'post count' as the value of posters, and you will again find that 'Goodlife' and 'Firewatch' have a combined whopping 45,000 (yes, thet is the number) posts in three trivial persuit threads where they basically say hello to each other all day. They take great pride in this tidbit that they have passed, along with the other people not talking politics, the posters who spent years discussing politics in post count.

    If you look you will see that the 'Trivial Persuit' forum has more posts then any forum besides washington politics and this will soon change at the rate the pointless posts multiply. But this is all good news for Goodlife who is never seen on topic posting (apparently Hannity's senior moderator can't be bothered to read and talk politics)but instead will only 'moderate' a reported 'transgression' and even then will often say 'I don't have time to look at this now.' She does of course have time to make 100 more posts in Firewatch's 'lounge' thread though.

    To continue the anti-military theme they have adopted, a few weeks ago an octagarnarian Iwo Jima veteran was threatened with banning if he didn't delete his justified angry response to a known anti-military troll by Goodlife. The man was forced to humiliate himself and was duly thanked by Goodlife for 'doing the right thing' which appears to be getting shitted on by a punk, which she heartily approves.

    And since we are going with the Goodlife and Firewatch connection, there is the story of how Firewatch actually became a moderator. It seems after a druken orgy in New orleans, attended by the moderators and their brown nosers, 'Reconrick' stole Goodlife's laptop and made himself moderator as a 'joke.' The joke of course was on hannity as Goodlife, apparently satisfied with Rick in the sack liked him as mod as well and they made this arrangement official. The story was circulated by one of them that was there that had a falling out with them it seems. They of course happily posted dozens of pictures of this 'trip' to the big easy (no, not Goodlife, New orleans) in, where, you guessed it, trivial persuits.

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  14. Just another few of the many reasons to visit another forum instead. I still read the TTTM board from time to time to remind me why I won't be coming back.

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  15. Anonymous4:05 PM

    Just to again comment on how rediculous Hannity.com is, they have a thread in their mod forum talking about an online game that Goodlife plays were her mod groupies!

    Like little children they flock to her and pay homage to their online mommy.

    What it has to do with the Sean Hannity radio show or what he talks about is a mystery, but heey, the mod forum is for the enjoyment og Goodlife, as is the entire site!

    If only it cut calories, it would really help her, but you can't have everything.

    They make Conservatives and Sean Hanity in particular look like asses.

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  16. Anonymous7:34 PM

    I just noticed a new tidbit from the Himmler of moderators, Lee Kington.

    He threatens to ban anyone who 'makes them look bad' in threads!

    Does that mean the jackass will ban himself?

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  17. Hannity Insanity6:40 PM

    I could probably write a book about the stupidity of Hannity.com. You're right -- the mods act like they're the stars. Shouldn't mods be seen and not heard?

    And the TTTM area is one of the biggest soap operas on the 'net. You have lots of righties trying to ban lefties with the thinnest of excuses. Heck, yesterday, there were at least three threads within an hour trying to bump off PeterGriffin. They're all jealous he's so much fuckin' smarter than they are. tha malcontent posted a classic thread crying about how PG, Vaard, Dark Energy and others were making a thread he created about him and not about the topic. Boo hoo hoo. No matter that the thread got proven to be completely fraudulent within the few posts. Boo hoo hoo. mal's intention was to get these libs banned. GL went along with it partially, banning two posters. PG, however, didn't get banned. Then there's DarkStarrRingo (what a godawful name) who tattles on every lib he can for bad talking the troops (any criticism is insulting to him) or incivility. Aristophanes is another cry baby. If these guys knew what it was to debate anyone instead of insulting or crying all the time, it'd be amazing. That's why Hannity.com sucks. Very few are there to debate. Most of the righties, especially, are there to insult lefties because they know they'll be able to get away with it. Pretty fucking sad. If Hannity knows and doesn't care, it shows what a phony he is. But we all knew that.

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  18. Anonymous12:58 PM

    ReconRick aka "Fire Watch" reveals his overtly authoritarian, make it up as a I go along, do shit because it pisses me off and I don't need any other reason for it other than I can.

    http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=733321

    That isn't even the thread that got shit started; Rick is covering his tracks because he knows he's fucking up and doesn't care. DoucheBush whimpered about the thread because it questioned the whitewashing of Jesse Helms, and the since Rick is a self serving, sanctimonious prick as well he jumped on the opportunity to take a wack at entire swaths of people who are a helluva lot smarter and more honest than he is. DouchBush can be excused somewhat, he's just Remus Lupin without the Aspergers., a desperate suckup who uses the moderator forum like a debate tactic when he gets in over his head. DoucheBush's thread was deleted and merged into the previous Jesse Helms complaint thread to hide the fact that Ricky was just pulling rank.

    As bad as a lot of the Hannity Mods are, Rick is really a bad choice. He's far too unstable and can barely keep a lid on his authoritarian tendencies. He does shit because he can, and that is the only justification he needs.

    Does anybody believe that Iggy, the only decent Mod on there, is "too busy with work" all in the sudden? It makes more sense that Iggy is embarrassed to be associated with those clowns.

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  19. Anonymous2:05 PM

    Not to mention that Firewatch is the same fucking clown who took aim at anyone disparaging his stupid "Liberalism raped a child" thread.

    He has also just banned BJ for a PM, which of course, has not been posted. Without proof, I call bullshit.

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  20. Anonymous2:08 PM

    Quite the putsch going on over there today.

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  21. Anonymous4:28 PM

    Let's just review some of the characters on Hannity apart from the obviously flawed characters who have somehow bamboozled their way into having any authority, some of the ones who enable the continuation of authoriatarian "because I can" asshatedness. Ones that run to Mommy/TTTM because they aren't smart enough to keep from getting hamholed on just about every thread they start or post in.

    Aristophanes - A Young Earth Creationist who revels in his ignorance. In fact, he aggressively promotes it. Without a hint of irony or self awareness, he yammers on about the "warrior culture" of military members like himself while simultaneously running to TTTM for the slightest perceived insult, or more usually, for the slightest possiblity of getting someone banned who has tooled him in a debate, which pretty much means everybody.

    DoucheBush, aka "Goodlifes Pet" - An unrepentant attention whore who is willing to do or say anything for attention. Faking his own illness, flitting about in TTTM, doesn't matter what he does as long as someone is paying attention to him. Does not know what is happening in the world beyond obsessively refreshing Drudge Report. Biggest troll on Hannity.

    DarkStarrRingo - It's hard to come up with who is both the dumbest/thinnest skinned on Hannity, but this guy has to be considered in any discussion along those lines. A complete dipshit.

    Tha Malcontent - Dumb and predictable, and almost as much of an attention whore as DoucheBush. There was another forum that he joined that didn't filter n-bombs, and once he figured that out there wasn't a post that he made that didn't contain at least a couple of n-bombs, until finally n***** had to be added to the word filter. Has three basic threads that all follow the same pattern.

    1)N****** this, n****** that.

    2)Fags this, fags that. Thinks about gay sex more than a gay person does.

    3) Liberal media doin' this to me.

    The progressions goes

    A) Stupid ass premise quickly blown out.

    B) Malcontard made fun of.

    C) Whimpers that he's being attacked.

    D) Claims people making fun of him are obsessed with him.

    E) Runs to the Mods.

    Rhet2 - Fucking insane.

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  22. The Jesse Helms stuff is pretty much business as usual (banning people for doing something the mods didn't like that wasn't against the rules) until FW's last comment (where he implies that respect must only be shown following the death of a political figure, and not George Carlin).

    I'm glad that people are still reading this thread. I've since stopped reading the Hannity forums, particularly the TTTM page, because the ignorance, irrationality and arbitrary power structure make me want to bite into a power line.

    A reasonably intelligent individual literally can't last a week on that forum because the "real" rules exist in the active imaginations of a half-dozen mods with delusions of grandeur.

    I've tried not to let the pants-on-head morons who run that board get me down, and it's difficult to do so without abandoning it entirely. The board itself and you folks let me know that I'm not alone. Thanks :).

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  23. Anonymous8:29 PM

    I'm glad to see I'm not the only one pissed off about FW and the idiocy over there. You see FW gave someone a 10-day TO for just quoting Helms? I swear those fuckers make up the rules as they go along. FW is an illegitimate mod and it shows. But they'll never get rid of him. He's too buddy buddy with GW. Dishonesty reigns at hannity.com.

    Some additions to the idiots list:

    - Thomas 603 and Lord of Mirrors - Both of these guys would say, do or suck anything to become mods. LOM makes sure he sounds like a mod lawyer in every post. Thomas is just an asshole who likes to boss people around.

    DarkStarrRingo - He was already mentioned, but I want to second that vote. Any perceived comment about the military is a slight to him and off he runs to the mod forum. (Where FW backs him up.) He's also the first one with a "Hey, look what Rush is doing" thread. Kiss ass.

    I'm surprised no one's mentioned Remus Lupin. In a classless by himself.

    More later when I feel disgusted.

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  24. Anonymous8:35 PM

    Wow. Great board here. Man the comments about some of the users at Hannity are right on.

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  25. Anonymous8:37 PM

    Someone has mention Remus: -

    Remus Lupin - the new board Staasi. Unceremoniously spanked off of at least three other chat boards with his tail twixt his legs for being a pathetic little snitch, Remus has found a comfort zone in TTTM.

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  26. Anonymous8:44 PM

    Thomas603 is drunk half the time I think and so dedicated to Rush I think he has a Limbaugh implant up his ass.
    Takes his orders directly from him and is literally incapable of thinking for himself.

    Ghoster is another one who is a total asshat. Pretends he's down the middle but is a bushlicker and just basically walks around being a jerk to everyone and if then stalking them if they don't respond. Petty, obnoxious and likely Megamedicated.

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  27. asgardshill9:06 PM

    The current butcher's bill for Firewatch's little hissy fit over Jesse Helms (who in life never met a White Sale at JCPenneys he didn't like):

    Alduous - permaban
    Daneel Olivah - permaban
    drago - permaban
    Gaetano "Tommy" Lucchese - 10 days
    Vaard - 10 days
    who - 10 days
    carbinier - 7 days
    croupier - 7 days
    ddye - 7 days
    MrCapitalism - 7 days
    Ortadragoon - 7 days
    PeterGriffin - 7 days
    Sisupala - 7 days

    Will the last unbanned poster on the Hannity boards please turn off the lights? But hark, there is hope:

    http://forums.hannity.com/showpost.php?p=30838621&postcount=19

    Firewatch: What am I? Stupid?

    Knowing one's self is the first step toward enlightenment, grasshopper.

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  28. Anonymous9:23 PM

    Croup was permanently banned.

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  29. Anonymous9:26 PM

    asgardshill: I always enjoyed reading your posts there. Glad to see you around somewhere on the net.

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  30. asgardshill1:28 AM

    Sorry, that was my bad, anon. I thought it was the 7-day petit morte complete with Sean Hannity Himself resurrecting the bloated cybercorpse from the tomb at Bangotha with a wave of His manicured hand as angels fly out of his arse, but I could have missed the perma part. (Great googly moogly, that's a long sentence ...)

    And thanks for the flowers. I'm getting spoiled these days actually cashing checks for my words instead of letting some immaculately coiffed radio pundit take credit and get paid for them.

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  31. asgardshill1:30 AM

    And I muffed the capitalization on the last "his", dammit. That's why one should leave comedy to the professionals.

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  32. Anonymous10:19 AM

    Lord of Mirrors - A previously mentioned douchebag that bears further examination. Look at his post history; he posts more in TTTM than actual moderators do. When he does stray into other forums he doesn't do very well without the protections of TTTM. The most likely place you'll find him is in the Sports forum, and even there he does nothing but spout gibberish and self aggrandizement. He's fucking retarded. Not too long ago he got brave and made a big long idiotic list of non-sequiturs and gibberish that he called a post, got quickly tooled on it, and then whimpered so hard Remus was embarrassed for him. Stick to what you know, LoM; pretending to be a 13 year old girl so you can have cybersex to "catch online predators". Uh huh. The only person he's kidding is himself.

    Thomas603 - Too dumb to know how dumb he really is. Not too long ago there was a thread about conservatives being not sophisticated, and he went on for pages trying to sound like he was really smart. He misspelled the bigger words, used them wrong, all the while trying to pass himself off as something he's not, which is someone who isn't a fucking asshat. It was like The Simpsons where Homer inherits money and starts mingling in high society, without the likeability of Homer. Friggin' hilarious. Almost as hilarious as when Thomas' "woman" came barging into the forums for two days informing anyone who "sassed" her that her b/f Thomas603 was just about ready to be a Mod and they better watch their step. Honeymoon was over real quick for all concerned.

    Ghoster - Ardently claims his independence while stunt butting for Republicans virtually nonstop. That way he doesn't have to get any GOP skidmarks on himself while sucking more Republican cock than Ted Haggard. To be fair, I don't think he does much in the way of meth.

    Saint Louis - Thinks 'objective analysis' is trading in every loony conspiracy tale that would make Robodoon blush, and then wonders why he is laughed at. Same could be said for "Moral Clarity". Two posters that started out appearing to be your garden variety GOP partisans, but they either couldn't or they wouldn't keep their John Birch Society paranoid gibberish cant under wraps.

    KSDB - Could find liberal media bias in a map. Complete inability to accept the possibility of ever being wrong on anything. Debate style is to pick increasingly small pieces of flyshit out of the pepper until everybody gets bored and leaves, which leaves him the victor. Not very smart, makes up for it with OCD.

    Liability - Insecure loudmouth.

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  33. Anonymous10:22 AM

    Here's an example of what a punk bitch Rick is:

    http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=733221

    The obvious "nazi" violation of Gengar gets fluffed over for days, until it devolves into something else so Rick can lock it up and not have to hold an AAW lickspittle like Gengar held to account.

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  34. Anonymous10:41 AM

    Loved the description of ksdb. Nailed him, you did.

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  35. Anonymous10:57 AM

    Oh damn, those were good. Thomas was even better. Rich Homer with out the likability. LOL.

    And how about these: New Orleans Lady and Sumurai. Two crumbled muffheads I wish I had time to take to bloke on about here. Maybe someone who has can leave a para or two for us.

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  36. Anonymous1:45 PM

    Ah yes, Nawlins Lady, the Ragin' Cajun of the racist persuasion. I find her quite harmless in the way I find street preachers with bullhorns harmless; nobody gives a shit what either one are saying because they are so obviously demented. She certainly comes from a different part of America where she thinks physical altercations between her and other grownups (usually in her family) are normal, that articles written on racist hates constitute good, thought provoking reading, and that kicking people out of the country who are some shade of brown, have funny names, or think differently than her is both desirable and realistic. Overall I find her more funny than anything, and far too stupid to be dangerous to anybody but herself.

    Samurai, not much going on there either. Long on smilies and regurgitating things from Stalkin' Malkin, Little Green Douchebags. Makes up for in volume what she lacks in smarts.

    They're both annoying twits to be sure, but they are much more an embarrasment to decent conservatives than anything to worry about. Good for some laughs, like monkeys flinging poo.

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  37. Anonymous8:19 AM

    I see Thomas must have had a bad night again. :) He's in TTTM complaining about TOT_Redux calling him Tommy and DEMANDING the mods take action. Should be fun ...

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  38. Anonymous5:53 PM

    It must be an intensely frustrating world for Thomas. He is dumber than a stump yet considers himself to be quite erudite and informed courtesy of listening to and regurgitating what he heard on Rush.

    Then, he mimics it where people can respond.....

    He's such a thin skinned assclown. Always hinting at some kind of armed revolution or insurrection, when he is the type that would never actually do anything besides shake his fist on the internet. Gotta be frustrating to have all the impetus of a right wing extremist, but none of the guts to actually do anything about it.

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  39. Anonymous6:47 PM

    It is clear the left on Hannity are being removed by reconprick and his lil banning tool.

    The board continues it's long slide into oblivion, while the mods happily say 'look at all my posts!'

    The fact those posts are in the Trivial section has a strange biting irony to them, as their opinions have proven to be quite trivial.

    Why on earth should anyone respect Jessie Helms, a man who even now is bidding for hitler's job as head trustee in hell?

    You would have to be someone who views Forrest Gump as a genius to make that defense that ol reconprick makes.

    I'm sure the head mod will fix everything by saying 'be nice to each other.'

    BTW, does anyone else notice that deleting posts smacks of coverups, yet they claim that mod forum is 'transparent?'

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  40. Anonymous7:14 PM

    >BTW, does anyone else notice that deleting posts smacks of coverups, yet they claim that mod forum is 'transparent?'<

    Of course it does. Deleting the evidence is an easy way of covering their asses. If it ain't there, it didn't happen. And anything they don't like to hear didn't happen.

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  41. Anonymous4:59 AM

    You have to be pretty stupid not to realize that deleting posts leaves no proof that people did anything wrong.

    And it also has the added screw up value that nobody knows what is wrong and what isn't because the imbecilic mods delete everything!

    If only they would delete themselves, now THAT would be moderating!

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  42. Anonymous7:51 PM

    And then there's the typical Firewash bullshit like his ruling against ogibillm's complaint against SFC(RL), who clearly was talking directly to ogibillm, but who FW let slide. Same with Lee's ruling against ddye's complaint. If it had been libs, they'd have gotten TOs, but conservatives get a freebie. They definitely do.

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  43. Well, deleting posts is damaging to their credibility as mods, but not nearly as damaging as leaving posts from banned users and letting people see the inconsistency behind their actions.

    The obvious reason why users are punished for disputing bans of others or referring directly to the specifics of banned material is that it would add a transparency that the more corrupt among the mods could not tolerate.

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  44. Anonymous10:55 PM

    The lefoids at hannity are complete assbags. Non-stop liberal talking points posted ad infiniteum. Some of the dumbest idiots to grace algore's internets are the libs at hannity's forums.

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  45. Anonymous3:31 AM

    Hannity wants to be freepers without the mental abilty.

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  46. Anonymous3:39 PM

    call me anonymous. Some folks are gasbags at Hannity rgardless of political point of view. Most of the louder mouthed liberals are in way over their heads though. And this cracking my knuckles site is beyond petty. I find it very funny to see how insecure the liberals here are.

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  47. Anonymous9:12 PM

    This is a way faggoty web site for whining lib bitches.

    Hysterical.

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  48. Anonymous9:30 PM

    Thanks for dropping by, conservative bitch.

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  49. Hi, Anonymous!

    This "Cracking Your Knuckles" site is my personal blog. The ongoing conversation here is a mere one post out of several hundred. My blog is not primarily political in nature.

    I'm not even, as you said, a liberal - I'm a libertarian/conservative whose issues with Hannity's forums transcend politics. I and others have detailed specific concerns we have with the forum and particularl individuals within that forum, involving blatant abuse, corrupt grabs for power and Orwellian methods and inconsistency. Your accusations, on the other hand, are mostly ad hominem and rely entirely on labels and dismissive insults.

    Finally, keep in mind that I don't censor redundant comments. Anybody with a coherent mind who has used forums.hannity.com probably has a few concerns to discuss, and I'm letting them vent as long as their comments don't constitute spam.

    If you can't ignore your infantile, meaningless labels for a moment and admit that the site has a problem, I encourage you to go back to hostile non sequiturs. Return if you like, hopefully with picking points that go beyond calling us whining bitches.

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  50. Anonymous1:06 AM

    I agree, I post these things because I at one time liked that forum, and have watched it literally fall to pieces.

    The guy calling people 'whiney bitches' is symptomatic of what Hannity has become, he's a drooling fanboi of the mods and feels the need to 'strike back' at those that dare question his gods, 'the mods of Hannity.'

    I am not a liberal either, and I watched with real dismay at what was done to Libertarians and other conservative non conformists there, I have seen the abusive behavior of the moderators and their 'let them eat cake' attitude towards dissent.

    They value traffic, quantity over any attempt at quality, the mod forum is 'animal farm' reborn (to support the orwellian theme mentioned). The head mod is ol Napoleon herself and her three pigs change the rules daily and tell you it's always been that way.

    I find the comments here are very accurate and I'm not looking at it from the left.

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  51. asgardshill4:08 AM

    I am well aware that posted names default to "anonymous". But would those posting here please consider filling in a nym of some sort by clicking on the "Name/URL" button then entering a unique nym in the "Choose an identity" box below when you post? It doesn't have to be your Hannity forums nym nor does it have to identify you in any way. It can be anything you want. Its just that it gets tedious responding to "anonymous", "anonymous", and "anonymous" all the time. Thank you.

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  52. piss on hannity8:14 AM

    You saw, of course, what happened with ogibillm's sig. He changed it, someone whined and he got banned ... after he did what they asked him to. So Lee the Extreme gives him a TO until Saturday. It's called Because You're a Lib. I remember when malcontent got banned he was back the same day after whimpering an apology. Of course, the mods RARELY reverse a call, even when they are clearly wrong. Shit, it might show that they're human.

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  53. AnonymousONE12:16 PM

    This site or at least the 'fun tales of fascism' portion is a bitch fest. "Oh! Woe is us! The mods at Hannity are not consistent. They suck! Oh and they're biased against liberals, too. Waaaahhhhhhh!"

    Mods are people. JUST human beings. Some of them are decent enough. Some have a screw or two loose. Some of their rulings suck. Some are much more on the money than the whining here admits.

    You guys want to critique the Hannity site and the Moderators there? Have fun. But the observations about most of the commentary at this little bitch fest site is no less valid. And if you want to edit my posts out or ban my ass, have a good time.

    Call me the AnonymousONE. I do post at Hannity. I am a conservative. I think libs are silly. And I think libertarians are pretty much basically libs, just more self-centered.

    AnonymousONE

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  54. "Mods are people. JUST human beings. Some of them are decent enough. Some have a screw or two loose. Some of their rulings suck."

    That's why reputable forums have checks and balances.

    "And if you want to edit my posts out or ban my ass, have a good time."

    I don't feel the need to censor your comments, or any others. Just as I can't control how long this conversation has become (honestly, it surprised me), it's plain that several people feel the way you do about the forums. Limiting the conversation to "whiny bitches" would be pretty one-sided on my part.

    "I think libertarians are pretty much basically libs, just more self-centered. . ."

    Aside from your general tone, this is really your only statement with which I take objection. Read up on the differences between libertarian and progressive philosophy and you'll see that there's quite a discord. Now, because libertarians are not strict conservatives on every issue, it follows that they also subscribe to some beliefs that conservatives do not believe in, or even beliefs shared with liberals, or others still. (Of course, this varies from person to person. Political parties and ideologies are just a convenient way of gauging somebody's philosophy without a point-by-point discussion of every issue.)

    But politics, as well as life, is not black and white. Granted, some people do identify themselves as independents or libertarians only because they think it makes them sound cool and aloof from the party war. These people are wearing their party like a fashion item and not really dedicated to any cause or belief other than their image.

    I've made a decision that unecessary government and military intervention in the lives or citizens or foreign nations is wrong and often evil. The huge military industrial complex of the neo-conservatives doesn't sit well with that idea, nor does the socialist empire being meticulously crafted by well-meaning, naive left-wingers.

    Call me crazy, but I don't think that the Hannity moderators are out to get liberals; many liberal and Democratic posters have thousands of posts and are doing fine on the forums. The main problem is the "I'm gonna go tell Mom!" system currently in place and the self-centered, self-righteous way it's implemented. I've tried to avoid complaining about the posters as a whole on Hannity's forums because nearly all large, mainstream forums have the same problems. Political folk in general are pretty nice, but most of them can't look past their training in labels and rhetoric and really think things through issue by issue.

    Anyway, I've gone on long enough. I hope I've managed to have my say without being hostile.

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  55. asgardshill5:50 AM

    And if you want to edit my posts out or ban my ass, have a good time.

    I don't think either one of those things will happen because Reconrick (or Fire Watch or whatever he's calling himself this week) and Goodlife and Lee Kington don't have mod privileges here. So I think your prose is quite safe from censorship.

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  56. I wouldn't worry about the mods' commitment to eliminating profanity, anyway, provided the profane individual is a mod sympathizer.

    Remember, it was Lee who called me a "son of a drug-addicted whore" and my posts "stupid punk trash". Everybody else laughed along with him.

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  57. AnonymousONE1:53 PM

    QUOTE:

    Clumpy said...
    I wouldn't worry about the mods' commitment to eliminating profanity, anyway, provided the profane individual is a mod sympathizer.

    Remember, it was Lee who called me a "son of a drug-addicted whore" and my posts "stupid punk trash". Everybody else laughed along with him.


    Yeah, but that was kind of funny!

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  58. Yeah - it was "funny ha ha", "funny uh-oh", "funny huh?" and everything else in between.

    I didn't really take it personally because he's essentially a tenured authority figure who lost control after something unexpected butted into his little illusive world, but his statement was so out-of-proportion to any conceivable rational or sane human response to my comments that I did find it funny. I laughed and my soul filled with stupid vindictive joy after he blew his cover, but of course Minitrue killed the evidence before it reflected on his character.

    Lee's statement was far more extreme than anything I said and nobody called him on it. QED.

    I've since left the forums because I can't win either way. I don't want to kiss ass and pretend that the rules don't matter like everybody else, and I don't like feeling joy at others' discomfort, however they might deserve it.

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  59. You Know Who10:08 AM

    And I quote:

    "Aristophanes - A Young Earth Creationist who revels in his ignorance. In fact, he aggressively promotes it. Without a hint of irony or self awareness, he yammers on about the "warrior culture" of military members like himself while simultaneously running to TTTM for the slightest perceived insult, or more usually, for the slightest possiblity of getting someone banned who has tooled him in a debate, which pretty much means everybody."

    Woot. Each day my infamy grows.

    People only hate you this much when they know you're right :-)

    Gimme a couple more years, and we'll see who's REALLY running America!

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  60. asgardshill6:55 AM

    And Phil McKracken joins the ranks of the damned (Er, I mean "banned") by Lee Kington because Lee Kington MUST show everybody how big he thinks his dick is.

    http://forums.hannity.com/showpost.php?p=31611071&postcount=18

    Phil McKracken: If there is a TOS violation case to be made, then Goodlife has every oppourtunity to make it.
    Simply threatening to ban a poster because she is "annoyed" doesn`t cut it.

    The moderators will be the first to tell you that you have no garuntee that you will not be offended by what you read here......that`s a 2 way street.
    It goes for the moderators as well.


    Wise words, neh? Moderators should enforce the rules as they are and not be arbitrary and capricious, right? Well, think again:

    http://forums.hannity.com/showpost.php?p=31611891&postcount=20

    Lee Kington: A moderator does not NEED to make their case.

    Nuff said. No rules, no right.

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  61. He didn't just say that a moderator doesn't need to make his case.

    Other illuminating quotes:

    "A moderator does not NEED to make their case. Saying "I am tired of your garbage, etc." is quite enough."

    "One of the most notable bans on these boards came from Moderator. The stated reason...."You annoy me"."

    I've added a copy of Lee's insipid post to the bottom of my post on this topic. In it he says outright that the rules don't matter at all. In the past the mods have used the rules as a shield while pretty much doing anything they want, but Lee's never gotten quite so close to admitting that the mods run the forums according to their egos and not according to anything so Draconian as the concept of "rules".

    Aristophanes, we don't hate you because you're "right". We don't even hate you because you're wrong, even though you are. In fact, we don't hate you at all, at least not on any personal level.

    But you are aiding and abetting a corrupt aristocratic system with no concept of due process or even a semblance of fairness.

    "But it's a private forum!" The floods of defense state. "They can do whatever they want! Why don't you start your own forum!?"

    Well, imagine if my landlord (a nice guy who's a little misguided) puts the rental arrangements and contracts in the hands of his bratty children, as well as the groundskeeper, pool repairman, etc. There is a code of conduct under which tenants can be evicted from their homes that the children are expected to follow.

    One day I arrive at my apartment to find the door locked, and all of my stuff outside. I go downstairs to find out why I've been evicted and the landlord's son scowls at me and says: "I'm sick of you. You annoy me - get the hell out."

    Of course this is unprecedented according to the rules; it's simply not a situation under which eviction is allowed. Nevertheless, Daddy's away and the kids are in charge. In practice, they do whatever the want.

    Yeah - they might have the legal right to evict me, but have they done something wrong? Absolutely! Do I have the right to complain, or to warn my friends against moving to that complex, or to make my feelings clear on the matter? Absolutely! Does this make me a whiner? Probably, but absolutely in the right.

    Believe it or not, this longwinded metaphor has a point: You have obviously found the right butts to kiss to avoid being banned, and enjoy the power and camaraderie that comes with the illusion of leadership under such an irrational regime, but it's still just that - a fragile, irrational regime. If you don't understand that, then perhaps the rest of the Internet is better off with you dicking around that broken forum.

    I'm still getting over a flu so I'm a little more peeved than I should be. My thoughts still stand.

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  62. (That doesn't mean you're banned from posting here or anything, though.)

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  63. The Real deal5:10 PM

    It's not just eratic decisions, it's rather obvious that it's all ego driven.

    The mods truely believe they are the show.

    I added a name so Asguard can reply, i made some comments without it earlier.

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  64. asgardshill9:32 PM

    clumpy, I'm sorry to hear you're fighting the flu bug. I'm just getting over the dreaded 'lergies myself (suffered 150 fire ant bites while working near a compost pile and several went septic on me). Fortified by several IV bags full of Vancomycin, I'm finally home from the horse pistol. So my kenkou isn't exactly at a world-conquering level right now either.

    I agree with you that the Hannity forums are corrupt and that there is no due process or fairness there any more. But I might have chosen the word "autocratic" instead of "aristocratic" to describe the management style of the current crop of moderators there. Even aristocracies operate under a set of rules known and understood by all involved, while autocracies such as today's THF operate solely according to the whim of the particular autocrat or autocrats in charge.

    I don't hate Aristophanes - hell, I don't even know him or her. Some people fit well into an autocratic setting while others don't. Aristophanes strikes me as facile (in a good way) and well-spoken; such people are usually strongly attuned to which way the wind is blowing, and can survive and even thrive in an environment where other people have a hard time keeping their opinions to themselves. I'm simply incapable of doing that myself - I'm like the little boy who couldn't help but point out that the Emperor really was flashing the crowd.

    So I say to Aristophanes - "aid and abet" all you want to. If you enjoy THF, then bully for you. But know that others who see it as merely a shell of what it used to be might very well have valid points too.

    A "fragile, irrational regime" - what a marvelous turn of phrase, clumpy. It touches on exactly what Lee Kington, portLEIGH and Reconrick have done to THF.

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  65. 150 fire ants? That's royally insane. One time in the Philippines a guy kicked a nearby nest of those onto my legs as a joke (not really the agressive kind but big as a nickel each). For the next day I found them in my ear, my coin purse, my hair. . . ugh. Funny guy.

    I Googled "autocratic" in response to your statement and you're right - it's closer. Though I think that "oligarchy" (another article I found) might be even closer. I've been rereading Orwell so it's easier to get me into a tizzy about this sort of thing :).

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  66. asgardshill3:52 AM

    It is one of Moderator Lee Kington's most oft-intoned mantras that "retreads do not have a voice on these boards." And sure enough, posts made by former THF poster and alleged retreader and moderator sasser Popcorn have been disappeared in the following and two other Talk To The Moderator threads:

    http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=751401

    The excitement in the air was palpable (or was that a pathology of smell associated with Asperger Syndrome?) as duty board Staasi Remus Lupin, Avergbear, cshoff and others gleefully piled on accusation after accusation about Popcorn's alleged misdeeds. Lupin in particular probably had to go change his trousers several times as he led the charge against the vile invader with no regard for his own personal safety.

    But Lee apparently either had a senior moment or was so grief-stricken by the passing of Estelle Getty that he failed to notice that cshoff quoted one of Popcorn's posts in his reply. In the interest of completeness and because its probably going to be deleted later, I present it here in its entirety.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by popcorn
    Like I said in my first thread, first time caller, long time listener. I've been lurking here for years.

    And because I have been I can tell you with certainty that rarely, if ever, are Republican posters reported for what I have been reported. The Moderators participate and encourage it.

    When is the last time someone was banned for saying Democrats support terrorists?


    These are actually two cogent observations on Popcorn's part. It goes without saying that Democrats of all stripes are accused every day in the pages of Sean Hannity's little obsession of being both closet Al Qaeda and wearing those shoes with the little curliques on the toes. And yes, Moderator FireReconWatchRick's baying voice is often the loudest in making these scurrilous accusations. But once again, like the little boy in the parade crowd who knows a dick when he sees one, even if its only an Emperor's dick, Popcorn made the fatal mistake of pointing out the basic hypocrisy of selective enforcement and the fallacy of the invisible bright line that mundane things like written rules were designed to clarify and codify.

    Sucks to be you, Popcorn. But you're in a better place now - off THF.

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  67. asgardshill4:00 AM

    clumpy, I quite agree that "oligarchy" is probably the better term to use. And its also probably not too far off the mark to call the current THF "Orwellian" in nature. Its become very much a cult of personality there - the moderators are God and your role as poster/user/contributor is to kiss their ass and make them look good, or you are simply no longer there.

    And short of wearing a sealed Tyvek suit every time I work out in the yard, I can do very little to protect myself against fire ants. The place is lousy with them to begin with. Most people react to their bite, but apparently my body chemistry is hypersensitive to their poison as the Vancomycin Tango is a routine thing for me when I get bitten more than once or twice. The bites fester and become infected, and its off to my little corner of the hospital for some intravenous love for a day or two.

    C'est la vie - it could be worse. I could be allergic to the Internet.

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  68. For years I was a very active poster on the Hannity forum. Although I still frequent the forum to read the latest I do not post much anymore. There are several reasons for this. One reason some of the moderator’s calls. It’s easy to see that the behavior of some is tolerated when it really should not be and then there are the heavy handed calls that leave me scratching my head wondering what that was all about.

    Remis, what can I say that hasn’t been said already? He is tolerated and for the life of me I can not figure out the why where that one is concerned.

    Plsd is another one that is not only tolerated but has a few on the moderator’s staff covering her backside quite well.

    Neither of these people contributes to debate. They just cause problems. Remis with his tattle telling and Plsd with her trolling.

    There are plenty more that contribute nothing beyond trolling or run to the moderator to make trouble posts. Carb comes to mind here. How that one has managed to rack up so many posts is beyond reason. His one liners and constant whining enhances nothing.

    But don’t worry; he has a right-wing counterpart. NewOrleansLady she calls herself; although she is no lady and does not live in New Orleans.

    Now Clumpy, I would like to make a comment about your rants as you called them. You did keep the moderators busy. You have made several comments here about NOL’s racist rants and yes I will agree she does make racist comments. It’s the reason I just scroll right past any post that has her name on it. But her rants pale in comparison to the anti-semetic comments posted over and over again the night you decided to take revenge for your brother being banned 4 years ago.

    Why do you feel the need to avenge your brother’s banning 4 years later? It just seems like a rather petty thing to devote time too and so many years later? What triggered this need?

    Also, why did you choose to use anti-Semitic comments to express this need for revenge? Is that your typical MO?

    Anyway the Hannity forum is a privately owned forum. They have a right to set the rules as they choose. It’s long past time for GoodLife to give up her moderator’s crown. She was a good one years ago but her day has long since passed.

    Asguard, it is good to see your name. You have always had the ability to add a smile or two within your post. I’ve really missed reading your stuff.

    There is also another posting here that I recognize although he is hiding behind the anonymous tag.

    Citizen.

    Just how many forums have kicked you to the curb anyway? The number must be staggering. It’s funny how quickly and easily you are identified. You are a fairly bright guy if you would just learn to deal in fact instead of what you have decided should replace it for the sake of your argument.

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  69. The Real deal2:40 PM

    Kissing up to the mods allows many posters to get away with virtually anything.

    Since they basically look down on all the posters anyway they have no problem being autocratic at all, in their minds they are what matters.

    It's become a game, the mod forum is theatre of the absurd and we all go and gawk at it, it can't be helped.

    Like 'Springtime for Hitler' without the genius of Mel Brooks.

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  70. Citizen -

    Hey, you must have me confused with somebody else. I'm not really familiar with the individual posters anymore - I never made a comment on anybody's "racist rants" or used any anti-Semitic comments in any of my discourse. I made no mention of a "brother" other than the Big Brother (1984) system running the forums. (My brother has not been banned from this forum as I never had a brother who posted on it.) I don't understand how you got me so wrong, though I'll give you the benefit of a doubt that you had me confused with another jilted poster.

    Actually, I've never had problems with any other forum, at least not since Junior High when I didn't yet have my act together :). As I stated on my original post (read it again), I recently decided to start posting again after a break of a few years and found that little had changed. Most of my action was in relation to my recent bad experience, as I have little recollection of offending moderators from my stint a few years ago aside from Lee Kington.

    I'll cede the point that my short-lived action was motivated by anger and frustration rather than the idea that it would improve things (aside from maybe educating a few people). But it's not as if I just came storming back, unprovoked, after 4 years to piss people off.

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  71. anonymoose5:04 PM

    So Cit, that wasn't you that got the boot yesterday?

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  72. Aristophanes6:22 PM

    But you are aiding and abetting a corrupt aristocratic system with no concept of due process or even a semblance of fairness.

    Oh please. I've been nailed with so many bans and timeouts, I've lost count. ALL of them have been due to portleigh getting her tampon fuse lit, and me getting caught in the kill radius. The one ban I DO remember was the result of Carbinier making a PM COMPLAINT to get me banned. There was NEVER a TTTM forum complaint.

    ADDITIONALLY, Portleigh retroactively changed her mod ruling against carbinier when I caught him violating it so she wouldn't have to ban him.

    Face it, for the mods, there are no rules, and ideology never matters. It's all about personal grudges and powertrips. The only reason I hang out there anymore is to keep my skills sharpened.

    And I never said you PERSONALLY hated me, clumpy, but it's pretty clear from the post I quoted from Mr. Oh-So-Brave Anonymous that there is a significant amount of hatred for me out there. Like I said...people only hate you that much when you're right.

    If you're wrong, you're wrong and people know it and it doesn't matter and you don't need to convince anyone if I am wrong of it because me being wrong would be self-evident.

    I've been the "victim" of random moderator emo-grenades just as much as the next guy, so saying I'm part of "the system" is lame, inaccurate, and just not true.

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  73. Aristophanes6:28 PM

    I missed this part:

    You have obviously found the right butts to kiss to avoid being banned, and enjoy the power and camaraderie that comes

    I have kissed not butts. I just figured out where the line was from getting banned and timed out a bazillion times, and edge right up as close to it as I possibly can.

    Take today, for example. Boiya reports me for calling him a LIBERAL after I handed his/her ass to him/her. I'm used to it, but to claim I'm part of the power structure is silly. I swear I'm among the top 5 most reported conservatives on that board.

    Honestly, I don't even know why they have a TTTM forum. It QUICKLY became apparent to me that it was used for NOTHING other than attempting to silence the political opposition.

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  74. aristophanes6:37 PM

    I don't hate Aristophanes - hell, I don't even know him or her. Some people fit well into an autocratic setting while others don't. Aristophanes strikes me as facile (in a good way) and well-spoken; such people are usually strongly attuned to which way the wind is blowing, and can survive and even thrive in an environment where other people have a hard time keeping their opinions to themselves.

    1. I'm a dude ;-)

    2. Very apt assessment, and thanks for the compliments!

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  75. Sorry Aristo, I was on kind of a power trip earlier today. That, combined with the shortness of my lunch break, led me to a reply that I intended to be punchy and acidic, but it turned out pretty wrong and misguided. I hope there's no hard feelings that I judged your character and history so badly :). I read far too much out of those three brief sentences you wrote, suggesting that I oughta loosen up a little and quit being so defensive. At any rate I've got a five-day weekend coming up so I doubt I'll be upset about anything for awhile.

    "I have kissed not butts. I just figured out where the line was from getting banned and timed out a bazillion times, and edge right up as close to it as I possibly can."

    That's pretty much the way to go if you wanna stick around at that forum. More power to you - you're probably less influenced by personal pride than I, despite what I implied.

    The sad thing is that I understand the line you mentioned, but beat my head against that brick wall far too often trying to make sense of it. You'll probably do more to improve the forums by winning people over to some form of rational discourse than my faux-erudite little tantrum a few months back :).

    "Face it, for the mods, there are no rules, and ideology never matters. It's all about personal grudges and powertrips."

    Absolutely. Granted, talking point neocons tend to do a little better on the forums, but probably only because there's less temptation for them to troll or try to offend people.

    Anyway, have a nice day. My final caveat is that I can't control what others say about you or the rest of the forumites or mods. I've tried to limit my criticism to others' actions rather than personal attacks, but my scattershot consciousness occasionally led me to cross the line (particularly in the case of Lee, who probably shouldn't have been my primary target).

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  76. aristophanes5:17 AM

    That's pretty much the way to go if you wanna stick around at that forum. More power to you - you're probably less influenced by personal pride than I, despite what I implied.

    The sad thing is that I understand the line you mentioned, but beat my head against that brick wall far too often trying to make sense of it. You'll probably do more to improve the forums by winning people over to some form of rational discourse than my faux-erudite little tantrum a few months back :).


    Well, I figure there are two approaches to hannity.com

    1) You can recognize that it's autocratic and capricious, accept it, live within the rules, and try to have fun anyway, or..

    2) Realize it's autocratic and capricious, not accept it, and end up doing something silly that gets you banned because it pisses you off so much.

    Spending 10 years in the Marine Corps probably helps me adapt to the rather autocratic style as well.

    At the end of the day, nobody makes me go there, and I know what I'm getting when I do, so I don't worry about the mods too much.

    Absolutely. Granted, talking point neocons tend to do a little better on the forums, but probably only because there's less temptation for them to troll or try to offend people.

    Oh, and leftie talking points spambot known as biggestal ISN'T doing just fine?

    Mind-numbed robots do fine in places like that because they lack the ability to think for themselves, thusly lacking the ability to get in trouble when they express themselves.

    Vanilla doesn't get you in trouhle at hannity.com, and that's all you get from the spambots. Try to put some sprinkles on the vanilla...well, I just hope portleigh is a in a sprinkles mood.

    And about all your apologies - no worries. Political discourse, like the hannity forums, is what it is. I know it and I accept it, and there's a certain amount of hard feelings and hurtful words that you have to be willing to deal with. It's the verbal, political equivalent of war.

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  77. Sorry clumpy,
    I did get a little information confused. After rereading the original post for this thread I realize it wasn’t a brother of yours that was banned, it was a friend of yours. You said you were banned for questioning the decision. That is if you are the originator of that post.

    QUOTE:
    Four years ago, I was banned from this forum for questioning the ban of one of my close friends, who had in turn been banned for questioning another ban. I'm unclear as to how far back the chain unravelled.


    My question still stands. What triggered this weird need of yours to spread hate and discontent 4 years later? Life a bit boring for you or did it take you that long to become angry about the ban?

    Either way the behavior is a bit more than juvenile.

    You do not feel the term chocolate covered Jew is anti-Semitic? You know what is really funny? NoL claims some of her trash has nothing to do with bigotry either. Maybe you two have something in common.

    I read some of the stuff you posted over and over under a variety of names on the Hannity forum. It was that very term that caught my attention. It just seems you are able to see the faults of others but are either blind to your own or just hope nobody will bother mentioning them.

    I do not think you are Citizen or whatever name he prefers to use this week. I clearly stated that he was posting in this thread under an anonymous tag. He is one of those reoccurring problem children. I know of 3 forums that have banned him for the some reason he was banned from the Hannity forum. He has a tendency to troll and contribute nothing to the debate beyond the trollish comments.

    He will surely deny the most recent banning from the forum. It’s what he does. He posts until someone realizes who he is, he gets banned, and then offers another denial. He creates another identity and repeats the process. All while posting in threads such as this claiming the forum is such a waste of time.

    It does appear that neither the lawsuit he claimed he was filing nor the petition he tried to push worked out so well for him so he has to have some way to work through his frustrations. A thread such as this could be good therapy for him.

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  78. asgardshill9:05 AM

    You can recognize that it's autocratic and capricious, accept it, live within the rules, and try to have fun anyway

    Its demonstrably impossible to "live within the rules" on THF when the rules change without notice on any given day according to whim, and are selectively enforced based on your political views and ability to suck up to the moderators. And anybody accused of violating any new rule after or even before it is enacted is summarily booted from the site (usually with great hilarity and a good deal of woohooing by the peanut gallery and cheerleaders like Remus Lupin). Even Lee Kington freely acknowledges that he and the other moderators do this simply for sport because they are enabled by the site owner to do so.

    No, THF has already become a wannabe Free Republic or Democratic Underground. The only thing they haven't done to complete the transformation to just another partisan echo chamber is beg for donations on a regular basis, probably because the minimal cost of operating the site provides Sean Hannity with a tax deduction. The ship of actual substantial political discussion sailed from THF a long time ago.

    Spending 10 years in the Marine Corps probably helps me adapt to the rather autocratic style as well.

    I have to take some issue with you on this one, Aristophanes.

    I spent 12 years in Unca Sam's Canoe Club myself (but my father served with the Fleet Marine Force in addition to being a Navy Seabee in WW II). As you know, everybody in the military is subject to a very specific set of written rules called the UCMJ. And you also know that just about every aspect of one's life while serving is influenced in one way or another by the UCMJ. The UCMJ is harsh in many ways, but it is also fair and consistent. You can't be separated from the service by your immediate supervisor because he got a bitter cup of coffee at chow that morning, and you can't be thrown into the brig or sent to Office Hours because you had a picture of a sports team that your LPO doesn't like tacked up next to your bunk. It is ludicrous to compare the current atmosphere at THF to the military in any way shape or form - what is going on at THF today bears no resemblance to the military in which I served.

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  79. aristophanes10:56 AM

    Its demonstrably impossible to "live within the rules" on THF when the rules change without notice on any given day according to whim, and are selectively enforced based on your political views and ability to suck up to the moderators.

    I dunno, I seem to be doing alright, as do many others. Maybe I've just got an intuitive feel for it.

    Like I said, I know what I'm getting into when I go there. Nobody makes me go there. I know the mods are unprofessional, unfair, selfish, egocentric, capricious, and all-around not that good at what they do. Maybe instead of "rules" I should have said "I do a pretty good job of reading people, knowing what sets them off and what doesn't, and pushing that envelope as far as I can."

    Like I've said, sometimes it's backfired, and I've eaten a ban or two and a timeout or two. Ah well, even the good ones makes mistakes every now and again ;-)

    I'm not going to quote what you wrote about the UCMJ, but I have two points to make:

    1) The Navy isn't the Marine Corps. That's not an insult, just a statement of fact. There are some similarities based on the fact that both are military organizations, but culturally, the two are very different.

    2) The UCMJ offers a commanding offer a lot of prosecutorial discrection, and leaves definition of crime open to much interpretation. If someone wants you gone, legit or not, you will be gone.

    3) You don't have to be fired to have your life made miserable by an asshole that happens to be a superior SNCO or officer.

    To reiterate - I have a pretty good idea of what I'm getting when I go there with the mods. I also know almost exactly where that line happens to be on a given day, even though it changes. I don't keep the TTTM forum open on a second tab for nothin' :-)

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  80. huh: The quote you're referring to is "Twenty seconds from now, somebody will see this post. They'll flag it and your Gestapo will descend upon it like a chocolate-coated Jew, and this post will be removed and my IP banned."

    That's merely a colorful simile designed to add a little comic relief. It's an extension of the "Gestapo" metaphor I was using on Lee and his crew. You might feel that it's in bad taste to refer to the Holocaust in a petty metaphor, but in order for it to be Anti-Semitic it would have to show prejudice or hostility towards Judaism. I showed none and have none.

    Once again, I didn't just come out of nowhere four years later and decide to cause trouble. I had had similar experiences in the past (experiences I detailed to show that little had changed), but the catalyst for my current action was what I experienced this year. Thus it's not delayed retribution, which would be pretty arbitrary :).

    I'm also aware that a thread like this will attract people who were banned for legitimate reasons (trolling, extremely hateful comments and profane personal attacks), rather than arbitrary ones. I'm glad you can show a little context and differentiate between the two :).

    ---

    I'll stay out of the military debate, of course, of which I wouldn't have much to contribute. I think the key is this statement by Aristophanes:

    "I do a pretty good job of reading people, knowing what sets them off and what doesn't, and pushing that envelope as far as I can."

    This is pretty much my problem. I know the sorts of things that are likely to set off a moderator, but figure that since I haven't broken the ToS I'll be fine. Down goes the banhammer.

    I think that Aristophanes has probably shown the patience to post long enough in the forum, gaining enough respect among certain people and enough posts to avoid immediate retributive action. Judging by what he's told us he still gets banned pretty often, but only temporarily. (Of course, part of this is the ability to see the sorts of things that set off the mods and try not to cross those lines.)

    Me and asgardshill don't have the patience for that sort of thing. I don't think anybody's really "wrong" in this case - certainly Aristophanes isn't "aiding and abetting" anything wrong if he doesn't take place in the snitching.

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  81. aristophanes9:40 PM

    Me and asgardshill don't have the patience for that sort of thing. I don't think anybody's really "wrong" in this case - certainly Aristophanes isn't "aiding and abetting" anything wrong if he doesn't take place in the snitching.

    I won't call it "snitched" but I HAVE reported people when they violate the letter of the ToS. I quickly learned how futile that can be.

    For example, there was an individual on the board (now banned) that enjoyed calling me "pussycat" because of my badass avatar (cat + ak + nuke). I'm sure he thought he was reawwy cwever, and it didn't bother me at all...except for the fact that "pussy" is a filtered word on the forum. The ToS are VERY clear...filtered words used in attacks on a poster are strictly verboten. I report him, and am told it's NOT a violation because the net effect of what he's calling me isn't itself a violation. Well that's fine and dandy, but that's not what the rules say.

    At any rate, like I keep saying, I know what I'm getting into when I get there. I like hanging out because it keeps me honest, makes me legitimately defend my viewpoints, and keeps me informed. I learn something new there every day I didn't know before.

    The mods sure are doing their damndest to stab the forum in the heart with a prison shank, though, that's for sure.

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  82. The Real deal10:42 PM

    It was a fun and interesting forum at one time, that time passed at least a year ago or more.

    Now it's just a shell of what it was.

    Now it's a monument to the massive Douchbaggery that is the moderators and their forum.

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  83. whereorwhen11:47 PM

    >At any rate, like I keep saying, I know what I'm getting into when I get there. I like hanging out because it keeps me honest, makes me legitimately defend my viewpoints, and keeps me informed. I learn something new there every day I didn't know before.<

    I don't think Hannity can be any kind of an educational resource when too many of its residents are completely loony tunes. I'm very glad the only contact I have with some of those folks is the other side of a keyboard.

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  84. asgardshill11:05 PM

    I dunno, I seem to be doing alright, as do many others. Maybe I've just got an intuitive feel for it.

    I'll be the first to admit that I can be a cranky old bastard and my patience can be in short supply at times. But I do know how to go along to get along as well. I'm actually fairly adept at playing Zelig in a place where many of the opinions differ radically from mine. My account at Democratic Underground has lasted almost 4 years in spite of my being as rock-ribbed a conservative as you will ever meet, and several of my friends there have told me that I am TOO outspoken for their comfort against conservatives and for liberal causes. But I draw the line at being given 48 hours off by a power-tripping and PMSed moderator for telling an obvious and completely neutral joke, the first suspension or ban of any kind that I had ever eaten on THF in the over 3 years I was there.

    Like I've said, sometimes it's backfired, and I've eaten a ban or two and a timeout or two. Ah well, even the good ones makes mistakes every now and again ;-)

    That is where we part company to some degree. Getting banned then coming back over and over is just not a sport I have a lot of enthusiasm for playing. There are just too many options out there to obsess over one web site in that way. If I have such a major disagreement with the aims or current politics of any web site (which happened when I left Free Republic) that I come to hate posting there, I prefer to simply call it a day and find a better table at which to feed my head. Retreading really isn't my style either (although I have friends who still post at THF with whom I still communicate). And in spite of his braggadocio, Lee Kington is utterly clueless when he claims that retreads don't have a voice on THF. (Nuff said). And the voodoo magic he claims to be able to wield to detect retreaders is laughable and so easily circumvented that I could teach my 8 year old cousin how to do it in an hour. This is going to sound arrogant as hell and I really don't mean it to be so, but any site I leave is going to miss me more than I miss them.

    I don't expect rose petals to be thrown at my feet as I post on any web site (I would be an arrogant idiot if I did), and I love the give-and-take that comes with a good fierce debate. But when those whose job is really to encourage and facilitate that kind of interchange start hogging center stage themselves at the expense of the real stars of Hannity's little show, the posters, then it is well past time to part company with no regrets and no looking back.

    The Navy isn't the Marine Corps. That's not an insult, just a statement of fact.

    No argument here. The cultures are two completely different entities.

    The UCMJ offers a commanding offer a lot of prosecutorial discrection, and leaves definition of crime open to much interpretation. If someone wants you gone, legit or not, you will be gone.

    The point I was trying to make is that a low-level staff sergeant or LPO simply does not have the ability to cashier you if you haven't done anything wrong. And comparing a THF moderator to a commanding officer (who admittedly DOES have awesome discretionary powers that can fsck with one's career) is really quite a stretch. The powers of THF mods are more in the line of the tenured old Bonehead English prof you had in college who's been there since the Andrew Jackson administration. If she gets a wild hair and tells you to leave her classroom, she gets to do that and the dean will back her up because she's tenured.

    You don't have to be fired to have your life made miserable by an asshole that happens to be a superior SNCO or officer.

    True. But also inapplicable to this discussion for the reasons I outlined above. On any web site I frequent, if the "misery index" gets too high, I simply find greener pastures.

    Competently managed web sites don't simply throw the keys to their moderators and let them run roughshod over logic and the forum rules the way the moderators at THF are currently doing. Nobody logs onto THF to find out what the moderators think about issues of the day. For that matter, nobody really gives a damn what the moderators think about the issues of the day. Sean Hannity and his web staff have forgotten that its the users whose opinions put "butts in the seats" on his site, not a few self-important uberposters with no apparent life other than pinning on that Barney Fife-esque tin star every day.

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  85. unsigned7:19 AM

    The analogy with the Hannity mods that has always come to mind is with that of baseball umpires. Nobody goes to a game to see the umpires.

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  86. asgardshill7:59 AM

    The analogy with the Hannity mods that has always come to mind is with that of baseball umpires. Nobody goes to a game to see the umpires.

    A much more accessible and less tortured analogy than mine. Bravo!

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  87. asgardshill8:03 AM

    I won't call it "snitched" but I HAVE reported people when they violate the letter of the ToS. I quickly learned how futile that can be.

    Ditto. I routinely reported spammers (porn and otherwise), flooders, child porndogs, and those who threatened the life of protected government officials and other posters with an absolutely clear conscience.

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  88. Unsigned10:49 AM

    Funny how despite the fact the mods encourage people to snitch that not all snitchers are created equal and some are actually criticized. Strange way to run a business.

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  89. The Real deal8:23 PM

    It's not strange, what they do encourages childishness.

    They claim the mod forum is for transparency, yet delete everything.

    They might as well use the report post function, which would end the fan boi nonsense and take away the luster of being robin the boy moderator of Hannity.

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  90. asgardshill12:30 AM

    And the ban hammer falls on long-time THF posters Sallow and Biggestal.

    Sallow apparently committed the heinous sin of offering to meet with THF poster Liability to discuss their differences.

    And just in case you the THF poster believe that your private messages should remain, uh, private, well think again.

    http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=759291

    Lee Kington: This is a PM exchange between Sallow and myself.....

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sallow
    (Sallow): I am not threatening anyone.

    These people are calling me a liar and unpatriotic.

    Lee..that aint right..

    And you know that.

    (Lee:) If someone violates the TOS ... file an official complaint. If there is an issue.... DON'T say anything about meeting them off of the boards. PERIOD.

    Resolve issues on the boards on the boards, via PM, or through a mod. Those are you options.


    And just what was left unsaid by Lee Kington here, kids? The moderators have now apparently assumed the power to tell THF users what they can and can't do off the boards. Boy, is that one going to put a crimp in the next meetup at Portleigh's fat farm graduation ceremony. I wonder if the required donation for admittance will be chocolate or pastry?

    Lesson learned: If you haven't been banned from THF yet and you want to communicate with other posters there without moderator "help", you'd better exchange email addresses pronto.

    Biggestal gets the hook for that old favorite, the "vulgar sexual reference".

    http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=759271

    And in the grand tradition of openness and transparency that we have all come to expect from THF moderators, ReconFireRickWatch deletes not only the "vulgar sexual reference" in question but the entire post in which it occurred.

    (ReconFireRickWatch:) For the others moderators reference, it was this thread, http://forums.hannity.com/showthread...1#post32007441

    the post I deleted between posts 17 & 18.


    Not that I wouldn't trust ReconFireRickWatch with the lives of my children or anything, but isn't the TTTM Forum supposed to be a place where all moderator decisions are made openly, without post-editing or covering of one's ass? Makes that lofty goal kind of difficult to achieve when you delete the entire post where a transgression allegedly occurred, ReconFireRickWatch.

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  91. asgardshill12:48 AM

    Correction: Sallow allegedly offered to meet with Sneaky SF Dude, not Liability.

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  92. The Real deal2:51 AM

    This surprises you?

    I have been saying all along that deleting posts defeats the entire purpose they claim the mod forum is for.

    Notice reconprick says 'the other mods' can see it, as if they will get a rip that he banned some lib.

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  93. asgardshill1:33 PM

    Not surprise, just rueful resignation.

    And Old Tex joins the ranks of the banhammered for "Contempt of Moderator" with the same ReconFireRickWatch flushing of the evidence as Biggestal.

    http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=760131

    It has become apparent that the moderators are now just drawing x number of names out of a hat when they choose who to ban. For entertainment, to stir up controversy, to reduce their server load, who knows? They'll be able to run the server on a pocket calculator when they get down to just the mods and Remus Lupin their mascot.

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  94. WhatI'dSay5:32 PM

    So biggestal comes back with an apology, says he doesn't know what he posted, even asks for a pm for what he said. And recronicdick still gives him a two-week TO. (Anyone notice the TOs seem to be getting longer and longer?) Not saying he didn't know, but sincere apologies only seem to be acknowledged for a very few. Time away seems to be the idea "to teach them a lesson." Are we still in school or is this typical conservative nutcracking?

    http://forums.hannity.com/showpost.php?p=32090501&postcount=1

    I seem to recall mal giving a whiny apology "oh I'm so sorry" apology and getting back in the same day. Something's wrong here.

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  95. asgardshill6:20 PM

    It will be interesting to keep an eye on THF for the next few days, just to see which screen name has disappeared completely. Other than those banned yesterday and today of course.

    http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2008/jul/28/church-shooting-police-find-manifesto-suspects-car/

    Police found right-wing political books, brass knuckles, empty shotgun shell boxes and a handgun in the Powell home of a man who said he attacked a church in order to kill liberals "who are ruining the country," court records show.

    Knoxville police Sunday evening searched the Levy Drive home of Jim David Adkisson after he allegedly entered the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church and killed two people and wounded six others during the presentation of a children's musical.

    ...

    Inside the house, officers found "Liberalism is a Mental Health Disorder" by radio talk show host Michael Savage, "Let Freedom Ring" by talk show host Sean Hannity, and "The O'Reilly Factor," by television talk show host Bill O'Reilly.

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  96. Aristophanes7:10 PM

    Asgard said:

    That is where we part company to some degree. Getting banned then coming back over and over is just not a sport I have a lot of enthusiasm for playing.

    Meh, to each his own I guess. I just got timed out for two days for calling Pete and Plasmaball bigoted fools...based upon the assertions they both made that the killings in Knoxville, TN were reflective of mainstream Conservatism. It doesn't matter that I'm right, of course. It also doesn't matter that two people are dead, apparently, as they took the opportunity to score some cheap points.

    Ah well. I'll be back on Wednesday :)

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  97. asgardshill10:56 AM

    Did Sean Hannity and/or one of the paid staffers at THF have an obscene word or two with moderator ReconFireRickWatch?

    Exhibit A: The Biggestal Incident

    http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=759271

    July 27th, 2008, 9:58 pm

    biggestal-banned
    For a vulgar sexual reference.

    For the others moderators reference, it was this thread, http://forums.hannity.com/showthread...1#post32007441

    the post I deleted between posts 17 & 18.


    Ah, but look a bit further down in the thread.

    July 28th, 2008, 6:02 pm Al, I'm going to convert your ban into a 2 week hiatus.

    And in the very next post ...

    August 1st, 2008, 9:25 pm I've lifted your ban.

    From a two-week ban to the 5-day variety. Verrrrrry interesting. Just who is biggestal "in real life" and what did he (apparently) say to Sean Hannity and/or his hosting company to get this kind of royal treatment?

    Exhibit B: ReconFireRickWatch Tearfully Grovels To Madasheck

    http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=768371

    August 1st, 2008, 8:49 pm I was out of line the other day. I apologize and ask for your forgiveness. Regardless of whatever else is going on in my life, I should be mature enough, and professional enough to leave that stress elsewhere. My "bad mood" and bad decision had absolutely nothing to do with you, but I, without justification or cause, took it out on you.

    Despite our difference of opinions regarding, well..most everything lol, I believe you to be an asset to these boards, and they would not be the same without you.

    Again, I apologize and hope you can forgive my rude and irascible actions.


    That THUNKing sound you just heard was my jaw hitting the floor. Whatever could ReconFireRickWatch have said to Madasheck to humiliate him enough to issue such a groveling public apology? And the question I posed earlier applies here as well - just who did "in real life" madasheck call to extract this groveling apology out of the toughest screw on the Green Mile at Shawshank?

    We find a clue here.

    http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=768391

    August 1st, 2008, 9:01 pm

    Fire Watch IP Hacked By Madasheck

    That's the only explanation I can come up with


    Unfortunately, Stuball's post links to the previously-linked groveling apology by ReconFireRickWatch, so I guess we'll never know for sure. Apparently the ass-chewing that ReconFireRickWatch received didn't include a demand that THF go back to the days when damning evidence of moderator misconduct wasn't post-edited by mods trying to cover their asses. But hey, progress is progress.

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  98. asgardshill7:01 AM

    Oh noes - there's trouble in Hannityland again. We've got lowly posters daring to ask (duh duh DUHHHHHH ...) questions and threatening to whip moderators IRL, and we can't have that now can we?

    Exhibit A: Lee Pleas DON'T CRITICIZE MEEEEEES!!!

    (Also known as Answering A Valid Question Is For The Little People)

    http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=782881

    August 12th, 2008, 3:05 am


    In our last episode, Lowly Poster bayourod dared to ask why the moderators moved a long-running political thread to the trivia area. And just like clockwork, Lee Kington lets bayourod know just where he lies in the pecking order.

    (Lee Kington) You know you are getting to be like alcohol on a cut. Whining about what the mod staff does and being vocal with your discontent at every opportunity. Time to stop.

    Notwithstanding the essential logical disconnect of accusing somebody of "being vocal" in a text-based medium, somebody should take pity on Lee Kington and step in to help him keep those damn kids out of his yard.


    A quick glance in our mailbag reveals yet another example of Lee Kington makin' friends wherever he goes.

    Exhibit B: If It Was A Fight, They'da Stopped It

    (Also known as The Customers Always Write)

    http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=782861

    August 12th, 2008, 1:49 am


    Lowly Poster temptrueamerican throws down the gauntlet to the Ancient Warrior.

    (temptrueamerican) Let me tell you something old man.........I am about ready to fly out to Arizona and take a piece out of your tired old ass. You are like the 20 yrs. old living with their momma in the basement......what gives you any right to keep banning me just cause you are an asshole. You want to play high and mighty........I would love to kick your ass three ways to Sunday. And thats the conservative way....no chit-chat with you.......just an ass-whipping from this liberal.

    Somewhere off in the distance, a dog barked ...

    A fairly mediocre effort there, temptrueamerican. A 3.2 from the East German judge would be the best you could hope for. Elder abuse is actually a very serious problem in the US of A, and its just not cricket to go around whipping Hannity's moderators mano a mano - its bad for business.

    Having said that, watch out for Lee's left cross - he wears a big US Navy "Proudly Served" ring on that hand that he got on sale at the American Legion All-You-Can-Eat Prune Danish Supper last week.

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  99. Anonymous5:42 AM

    Obviously the Moderators of that forum - as well as the "Con" posters are doing an excellent job at getting under your Liberal skin! They should be saluted for their success.

    You Liberals are nothing but a bunch of whining pussies.

    Go stick a tampon in your ass. You'll feel better.

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  100. In reference to the above, let it never be said that this thread holds no attraction to the erudite.

    Your inspiring command of the English language is more impressive even than the vast intellect of the individual who, having gained a lifetime of experience and processed a couple hundred thoughts through his spacious cranium, has begun to realize that protesting the actions of a cabal of power-hungry douchebags is not necessarily an attack on their professed political preferences. Bravo, asshat.

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  101. Anonymous4:40 PM

    Clumpy – any asshole with access to a thesaurus (you), can craft a pseudo-“literate” piece as you have. I am not impressed.

    Thankfully, you let up on your Mother’s tit for a few hours to whip it up for the entertainment of others, however. I have read better literary works while taking a dump at an airport, scribbled with a “Sharpey” by a Puerto Rican looking to give a businessman head.

    Now, while I am sure you’re “down” on your father, or your half-brother at the moment, celebrating your literal victory, once you come up for air and wash yourself, could you possibly contribute something of worth?

    Thanks, Liberal cumstain.

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  102. I assure you that nothing in my previous post was complicated enough to require a thesaurus. Perhaps my usage of the word "erudite" was a bit much, though it's long been a favorite word of mine as I'm something of an aesthetic at heart and I like the way that it rolls off the tongue.

    Am I to hold your vulgar little rant as the new standard of one-upsmanship? I'd rather let it speak for itself.

    We take all kinds here, though I prefer the type who debate points and know how to craft a proper rebuttal, rather than calling their opponents ignorant, incestual dime-store hookers the moment that they get angry. It's more than likely you can't do any better, but my idealism leads me to believe that I can't be wrong to expect something higher. Nevertheless I do have a healthy sense of pattern recognition and my experience with individuals such as you leads me to believe that I can expect only more of the same.

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  103. Even I, a pole-smoking Liberal, is considered a leader at Hannity's forum.

    So there!

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  104. asgardshill3:07 AM

    The Readers Always Write

    Oh my. Looks like at least one THF moderator has some verrrrrry thin skin. Thick waist, thick ass, thick everything else, but thin skin.

    Leigh The Corpulent WEIGHS in on the topic of snarky blogs while booting long-time posters out of the moderator forum.

    http://forums.hannity.com/showpost.php?p=34014061&postcount=53

    August 26th, 2008, 7:37 pm

    (goodlife) furthermore....one more thing out of either of them and they'll be gone from here for good left only to post on the blogs of the world with people who have nothing better to do than to post about Hannity mods....

    We wouldn't be posting such mean things about you if you weren't such a shrill cunt, my little lard dumpling. Did you take my advice and hit the Slimfast, or are they still writing epic poems about your last visit to the All-You-Can-Eat Night at the Sizzler?

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  105. asgardshill3:16 AM

    Mean People Suck

    (or Ethel, That Penis Pump I Got From The VA Is Too Big. AGAIN.)

    And longtime poster Sallow learns that EVERYBODY pays on Fish Stick Night at Flaccid Acres.

    http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=805231

    August 26th, 2008, 5:36 pm

    (Sallows_Ghost) As a long time poster, who's tried his best to follow the rules of this forum, I let my temper get the best of me and did some pretty foolish things. I apologize to the mods for that and hope that they let my account be reinstated. If that happens I will try my best to behave in accordance with the standards of the forums.

    Sincere, heartfelt, and refreshingly free of excessive groveling. Cue the tears and the well-worn CD with We Are The World, right?

    WRONG!

    August 27th, 2008, 12:28 am

    (Lee Kington) You are a long time poster that walks around with a chip on their shoulder. You have a long time history of challenging people to knock it off. I did and it will stay off.

    Ask again in 20 years if you can manage to grow up between now and then.

    Don't sweat it Swallow - it was simply a bad night to ask to come back. Lee's dealing with a lot of shit right now - that hot little number down the hall in 37B broke her hip again, those damn kids still won't stay off the lawn, and somebody still thinks its high comedy to put Tic-Tacs in the Cialis bottle. But that's the beauty of dealing with senile dementia - Lee'll be your best friend again in a few days as the Alzheimer's turns some more of his frontal lobe into Swiss cheese.

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  106. Anonymous5:45 AM

    Lee's ruling on Swallow was appropriate. Said poster was nothing more than a whiner - who, like so many Republican's mentioned in this thread, regularly ran to the Mods to cover his ass.

    Good riddance.

    Good call Lee!

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  107. rush limburger9:01 AM

    >Lee's ruling on Swallow was appropriate. Said poster was nothing more than a whiner - who, like so many Republican's mentioned in this thread, regularly ran to the Mods to cover his ass.

    Good riddance.<

    Right. And an obvious troll like DarthBush who has been told he's on his "last chance" more times than Madonna's had boyfriends is allowed back in? There's an impartial mod ruling for you.

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  108. Personally, I'd watch some of the personal attacks, Asgard. Weight-related ones in particular don't seem particularly conducive to an even-handed discussion. . .

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  109. asgardshill12:00 PM

    Personally, I'd watch some of the personal attacks, Asgard. Weight-related ones in particular don't seem particularly conducive to an even-handed discussion.

    They become extremely relevant and conducive to the discussion when Leigh The Corpulent uses obviously Photoshopped pictures of herself and describes her body type as "More To Love" (i.e disgustingly fat) on her MySpace page. Leigh has made her own bloated chunkiness a public issue, not me.

    And the deck is already stacked when it comes to "even-handed" discussion about Leigh anyway. She has the ban hammer on Hannity, a tool that she does not wield here.

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  110. Well, if she brought it up first. . .

    I sort of came in in the middle of a sentence and didn't get the context. So she's sort of a porkine partisan.

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  111. asgardshill12:16 PM

    No worries, clumpy.

    And by the by, that was a nice disassembly of anonymous number 993482 a couple of posts upthread. And "porcine partisan" has become my favorite phrase for the day.

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  112. It is with a "c", isn't it? Porcine. And I have no bloody idea how to pronounce it.

    Thanks for the compliment :). I sometimes wonder if it's wrong to trash trolls who deserve it, but it feels so right I never wonder for long.

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  113. Anonymous12:09 PM

    Hi. I stumbled on this blog having been an occasional “lurker” at Hannity’s forum for some time and googling here and there. There is some funny stuff here. I just wanted to make you all aware there is a particular outstanding political forum, Republican leaning, that I am a member of. Democrats participate there as well, although are nowhere near as whiney as some I see over at SHs site. Sometimes there are up to 300 people logged in our site on evenings, rarely the usual crowd. I think what makes it so good is there is a very limited number of forums to choose from – only TWO, to be exact, so when a lot of people are logged in we are all congregated in one area. There is no “talk to a moderator” area. If people have a opinion – they tell a moderator straight up or other posters what they think. Sometimes it’s pretty “in your face.” You can take on/call names fellow posters, no word filters, no restrictions on photos, etc. Mantra is, “can’t stand the heat, don’t come back.” That’s pretty much the mentality. Political correctness is virtually non-existent too and is usually not tolerated by fellow users, which gets hysterical sometimes. A moderator did kick a guy out recently for a brief bit. This person brought one of the moderator’s wife into it. It was pretty comical, actually. But, the guy pretty much backed the moderator into a corner and the moderator had the decency to say he would let him back after his mandatory vacation because he said, “for the most part I respect the guy’s views.” Bottom line is great conversation and lots of varying views there and most of all, it’s fun. The Hannity forum some of you seemed obsessed with seems like is controlled too wishy washy for my tastes. To each his own, I guess. I won't be providing the URL to our site. I hope the people you guys are discussing in this thread never find us! They are all yours!! Take care

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  114. Anonymous4:01 PM

    I know exactly what forum you are talking about!!! Two forums?? (hunt hint!!!) It does kick ass. Freaking hilarious and often times (usually) in your face.

    No chat area and/or room to taddle to the "adults" either. Sean H's site seems to have heavy-handed power-tripped "Barney Fife" moderating.

    No thanks. 5808 members there can't be wrong!

    Hannity forum participants seem among the lamest on the Internets. Agree. Keep the URL private.

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  115. Hmm. . . do the limited number of areas on the board you mentioned cause problems? One of the problems with Hannity's forum isn't even it's fault - it's simply too big and popular to make any rational sense of it. Every thread gets bumped around so quickly by the sheer number of responses that it's impossible to keep up a coherent discussion. Everything you post to is quickly invalidated by four pages of backposts in just a few hours.

    I like to discuss politics on the xkcd forums (forums.xkcd.com). It's mainly frequented by left-wing college students, though you see a large number of opinions and it rarely gets hostile. It's nice to see opinions argued in a strong and intelligent manner that rarely sinks to talking points or "conspiracy time".

    The "general" discussion area is pretty well-trafficked as well, meaning that you can get a pretty good discussion going about entertainment stuff when you want.

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  116. shaken and stirred9:19 PM

    Hmmm...

    http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=810191

    A trolling, flooding complaint in the mod forum.

    What prompted the complaint? Two threads called "hateful and uncivil" ... "The Crowd is Huge with Fellow Americans" and "Look who's talking!," about the crowds on the final night of the Democratic convention. Hateful? Uncivil? Of course, another conbot jumped in right away with a comment, "These threads serve no purpose but to spout hateful rhetoric. They have no redeeming debating qualities to them." (This from someone whose sigline says, "Democrats lie to us. They play on our fears.") Lee K. was, for a change, not snoozing at the keyboard and posted this ruling five minutes after the complaint was filed: "I merged the threads and MAY take further action later." For what? Pointing out there were enthusiastic crowds? Has he missed the repeated anti-Obama threads with the same arguments, often racial, posted over and over? Bottom line: Obama's at the end of the line here, no matter what the rest of the country thinks. Sounds like the Ron Paul burial all over again.

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  117. asgardshill11:14 AM

    Rage Tissues

    (or The Customers Always Write)

    Posted for archival purposes only before the moderators sweep it into the Dustbin Of Internet History. Poster hypocrite really is being a tremendous dick about the new "Don't bring Palin's kids into the discussion" rule on THF.

    http://forums.hannity.com/showpost.php?p=34617681&postcount=3

    hypocrite hypocrite is offline
    Man On The Street

    Join Date: Sep 2008
    Posts: 3

    oooo nice job
    way to stay on top of things.

    get a life, and mind your business.

    If you can't see what hypocritical morons these moderators are, you're more of an idiot than they are


    You see? You see? I don't criticize everything the moderators at THF do (just 99.92 percent of it). But hypocrite's late, unlamented rant against the mods just makes it a ... well, a dickfest.

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  118. Anonymous7:29 PM

    Every time I see that smug face of the pretend Hannity mod LK, I truthfully have to laugh out loud. What I see is an old man sitting in front of his computer late into the night, with an overdose of Viagra, so he can beat off the sexual tension that inevitably comes to his throbbing 3 inch nail with every push of the ban button.

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  119. Ouch. Really, he seems okay in the pictures to me, like an opinionated uncle who's all right as long as you don't go into politics. Y'know - the kind of guy who's so "patriotic" it doesn't matter if he wants what's best for the country or the world.

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